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Our
adventures in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus continue....

A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL.
After a very early morning, think it was around 2 a.m. when we got home, we also had a bit of a late start. Me to make breakfast again and then a thoroughly lazy day in the sun, with a good book, is not a bad pastime. We had bought a duck especially for dinner tonight, so Joan did a sterling job with that and all the trimmings. Of course we found a nice bottle to aid the duck going down.
Dear All,
Welcome to a new year of our adventures in Northern Cyprus - and a (Currently being) revamped site...
Please bear with us as the site is updated - Normal services should be resumed shortly!
Guess by now you will have noticed the new layout of the site which is going to make things a lot easier to work with. Nic at Bassett" target="_blank">www.bassettgreen.com">Bassett Green has been doing some great work but there is still some way to go, so please bear with us for a little while longer. Until we sort out the links, you will need to go to the photo pages to get a look at any pics we have taken for 2006, all the old links still apply for all the previous years and months. Many of you have found the old TRNC Information pages useful, so we are trying to get some direct links to useful sites, directly on to the news and photo pages, this will save having to search around the website hopefully. At this time the links shown are not really relevent, just part of the change and development
Guess today was an important one for our friends John & Pat Creasey. It was Birthday Boy John 65th today so off we went to the Padisah Restaurant, to help him celebrate. John didn't know we two were going to be there so hopefully that was a pleasant surprise, if not then he was too polite to say anything! It was also the last evening before going back to UK, for Terry and Irene two very good friends of John & Pat, from the Hastings area of England. They had never been to this restaurant before and whrer very impressed.
It has in fact been some time since Joan and I last went to this restaurant but am very happy to report that it has not changed one little bit, still very friendly and very good food at a reasonable price. Thoroughly enjoyed by all.
Today Joan and I went over to Nicosia for a little while to meet up with some furniture manufacturers who supply to our friend Omac Cin. Joan is going to look at the possibility of putting together some furniture for you to look at and at sensible prices, for those holiday homes. Watch this space we will put a link in and let you know as soon as we have it all together.
Last night George and Susan came back from their UK trip, so this evening, together with Michael and Barbara we all went off to L.D's to have some of their excellent food and beer. Next time I promise to take the camera and include some pictures so you can find the place. Having said that, it really is quite simple, go west out of Kyrenia, turn up the road to GAU (Girne American University) and you will find it about 500 yards up on the right.
I have also discovered something else about this new website. No spellcheck, so am going to have to get my proof reader working before I post to the site. Never was very good at it. If you spot something then please mail me I am happy to own up and correct.
A trip to The Dark Side for Joan and I today., over the border and down to the hypermarket in the south. For those of you who are due over soon and want to find out how to get there, it's easy. Cross over at Kermia, follow the signs to Limassol and Larnaca and you will find this huge hypermarket called Orphanides on the right, about a 20 minute drive from the border. This picture of Orphan Annies! in the January gallery will help you recognise the place. Do remember of course that you can't get across in that hire car, you do need a local registration plate.
On the way there we found this huge Cyprus snowman at the roadside, no other Xmas decorations around just this fellow standing all alone in the sun.
Fun and games weekend. Joan took to her bed on Friday evening and she still resides there yet. Either she has eaten something unsavory, but not likely because we have had the same food, or she has picked up some sort of virus. As today is the start of the long Bayram holiday over here until 16th January it was a case of find the chemist and get some anti-biotic quick. At least it is possible to go and talk to a qualified chemist and seek his advice without the need to start getting doctors to make house calls.
Yesterday, as Michael and Barbara had said they were going to do Sunday lunch on the first weekend back for George and Susan, I was packed off for a tremendous portion of the old roast pork and all the trimmings. Thanks Barbara, gratefully received, just a shame that Joan could not join us, but she says the last thing she wants is food…….
So as I am unlikely to be doing much gallivanting around this week, let’s take a look at what the papers have for you.
Gary Robb, of Aga Developments, still resides in Thailand and has now been stripped of his citizenship in TRNC. The solicitor who handled Aga’s customer payments until last July has been cleared of any irregularities, so what all this means for the ongoing developments is difficult to say. It would seem that the Interior Ministry is still investigating and they still promise that all the developments will be completed but with no firm proposals as to when and how. Apparently Gary Robb, in a telephone interview with the press, has said he is wanting to come back and assist in clearing up everything, but he says his requests have fallen on deaf ears.
Whilst all this is going on we hear that NCP are now in financial trouble. Their bankers say that they have already had a £1 million loan and any further request for an additional £1.5 million has been turned down, meantime they are not allowed to issue cheques, so I can only assume that their developments are going to stop whilst the government gets involved again.
There has been a severe drop in sales all-round over the recent months as a result of many things, the South’s publicity attack, the Orams case now being handled by Cherie Blair, some wonderful totally “unbiased” reporting by the likes of Trevor Macdonald, etc. etc. so guess that things are going to be difficult at the start of this year for everybody involved in the construction industry here.
Whilst all this is going on, the TRNC Land Registry has announced that it is going to modernize its operation. Title deed registrations back as far as 1900 are to be recorded on computer, documenting current and past ownership of all properties, land and roads. It is also going to record Turkish Cypriot properties in the South. The ultimate aim is to streamline the sector and speed up the service. Other reforms are in the pipeline which will set out guidelines as to who can operate as an Estate Agent and who could not.
Cyprus is experiencing its driest winter for 30 years. Average December rainfall should total 100 mm but last month we only had 7 mm and reservoir levels are still falling. If we don’t get a lot of rain during the next few months then we could face a severe water shortage in the summer. At least as I type this it is hosing down outside and promises to continue for the rest of this week.
Apparently Jack Straw is to visit our TRNC president here in the north, on January 25th and then go on to Turkey. It will be interesting if he flies into Ercan airport and does not go into the south of the island. Watch the fireworks!
Have had a couple of e-mails commenting on the fact that some of the small ads. are pointing at the south. Tut tut not good enough. The truth is that they are currently only there to test things out. Nic is doing sterling work back in UK but these things take a bit of time to change and the site is beginning to look a lot fresher than the old 4 year version. Bear with us a bit longer folks.
So far this week we have had almost constant rain. It is desperately needed here, but now falls at a most unfortunate time, it’s one of the biggest Bayram holidays of the year lasting this year for all of 9 days, so all the locals who have been looking forward to a nice break have been getting rather damp. For me it has meant that trying to get to some of the new builds to check on progress for kitchens etc has been fun, now you know why I bought that 4 wheel drive.
Socially the combination of the weather and Joan not feeling too great has kept us indoors but it looks like that might change at the weekend as it is George’s birthday on Saturday, so any excuse for a gathering somewhere, not that we normally need much of an excuse.
We have however been dong some work on Joan’s new furnishing package. Most of you know that we have for sometime now been offering kitchen equipment and air conditioners etc at very competitive prices and this has caused many of you to ask, where can we get some good furniture that doesn’t look as if it was built and designed in the 60’s, so we decided to try to look around and put together some things for you. Also now that Joan is no longer at the school, because they needed a full time person, she needed something to occupy her mind. Take a look at the links on the "TRNC INFO" tab at the head of this page and then "FRANK'S SPECIALS" to find Joan's Furnishing Package. We believe these items to be more like European tastes and at quite keen prices, there will be more items added as Joan has time to go out and about, but in the meantime any feedback will be most welcome, so long as it is polite......
Joan is up and about and giving me a hard time again, so all is well but now I have come out in sympathy with a sore throat and runny nose. The first sign of wet weather and off we go with the colds, guess I will have to resort to the honey, whiskey, lemon and hot water cure, what a terrible problem and with local scotch at £1.60 a bottle as well.
Today our friend George celebrated his umpteenth birthday so we decided that this was the needed excuse to gather people together at L.D's bar and put their chef to the test with a gathering of sixteen, all wanting different food. I had said that I would take a camera down to the old Lardy's crew new place so this is it. Gradually the crowd gather to help George enjoy his birthday.
Sandra, Derek and the girls had set out a long table to accomodate the layabouts + a few more and have to say that we all felt that they had done us proud and succeeded in taming this unruly crowd with some super food and a few bottles of wine.
Joan and I had been to the village cake shop to get the birthday boy a big chocolate cake, but they didn't have enough candles in stock so he had to be content with just "Happy Birthday George" in a lovely shade of pink icing.....George kept saying that he is 38 plus a few months, but there is no hiding away from the fact that that few is 240 and by next year we will aslo be able to call him grandpa George.
Sunday the 15th and a look at the weekly English language paper.
First the weather. I have been saying that we have had a very warm and dry winter so far, but all that changed this week. 82 mm of rain in 24 hours in the Famagusta area and 31 – 34 mm over this area, this compares with a normal average of 65 mm for the whole month of January, so it did rain just a little bit. The seven day forecast however says it is going to dry up and the temperatures go back up to 17 degrees and in fact it has already started. Joan and I had to go in to Kyrenia yesterday and we sat out on a terrace for morning coffee and then on the way home, dropped in to Jeanette’s restaurant, the Serenada, for an omelet lunch sitting outside in the sun.
Nothing much on property issues this week, probably because of the long Bayram holiday. There is however a clear sign that the Turkish Cypriots are at long last fighting back. Mr. Erdogan Durmus, who is in fact the president of the TRNC Human Rights Foundation, is suing the Greek Cypriot Government for building a power plant on his land in the south, without his permission. The lawyer handling the case says this is the first of its kind, but not the last, as many Turkish Cypriot properties had been used for “public projects”. I have in the past been told that both Paphos and Larnaca airports are built on Turkish Cypriot land, now if true, that could be really interesting, a little bit more than asking the silly Orams’s to knock their house down.
A very grim start to 2006 on the roads though. Five deaths already, four of them during the Bayram holiday with a further 15 injured, almost all of these can undoubtedly be attributed to uncontrolled speed and stupid overtaking in places where you cannot see the oncoming traffic due to bends or hills. This government still allows the importation of new and almost new left hand drive vehicles which makes overtaking extremely dangerous especially when they insist on driving in the boot of the vehicle in front. A week ago we were coming back from Kyrenia in the dark and we were overtaken by an old LHD Mercedes on an almost blind bend, traveling at a ridiculous speed and without any lights on at all. One of the fatal accidents last week involved an off duty policeman, his wife and twin daughters. They were hit from behind by a speeding car, the lady was thrown out of the car and one daughter was critically injured and died later in hospital. One has to ask the question, what about seat belts and child safety seats, we even see the local police driving round without belts on, so who is going to make these laws stick.
As predicted, Jack Straw's meeting with President Talat here in the TRNC has raised a lot of objections from the south so there is still some negotiating to do before it takes place. The biggest objection of course is, if the meeting takes place in President Talat’s office, it will mean tacit recognition of the TRNC.
More news on the visa front. Apparently somebody who overstayed their 90 day visa was allowed out to go and visit relatives in the UK at Xmas but on return was fined £500.00 and his passport held until the fine was paid. Going over the border to the south does not count, so flying out of Larnaca is not an excuse to say you have been off the island. Last night I was also told that if you fly in to Larnaca you may only be given a 5 day visa on crossing the border unless you ask for longer, so take care they are tightening up.
Finally whilst writing this I was called out by Joan to watch her "prune" the Pampas grass. Somebody told her all you have to do is set alight to it; this kills all the old growth and allows the new to survive. How anything could survive this blaze I don’t know, but the gardening experts know best.
What a week. Sniveling cold and a very sore throat, coupled with some very extensive power cuts all week. OK so there is no need to feel sorry for me, for sure the air-conditioning boys who turned up on site today didn’t, they were last seen laughing, waggling their arms up and down and going cluck, cluck. Very funny………
Earlier this week one of the big turbines at the Teknecik power station blew up and this has caused major problems throughout the north. It appears that there are only two of these large turbines at the power station and that they should be maintained at 60,000 hours. Both have been running for 130,000 hours at 98% capacity, so one finally said “enough is enough”. Apparently proper maintenance of these units will take 3 months for each turbine and until the new power source is completed, due at the end of 2006, we can expect more of the same.
Power cuts have been around 5 to 6 hours until yesterday when we were in fact off for a total of 18 hours. Our generator has been a real boon to us, if only to keep freezers and running and lights in the evenings, but yesterday at 5.30 p.m. it decided to pack up also. So there we were, roaring log fire and candles and I have to say that the repair was completed by 10.30 a.m. today, with a little reminder to me about regular service. Oops!
The South has come up trumps in this situation and is supplying a daily load of electric on to our grid. This in fact prompted an e-mail from a regular correspondent, Lewis Gerolemou, as follows:-
Hello Frank, In view of the current (no pun intended) electricity shortage in the north I feel it is inappropriate for you to refer to The Republic of Cyprus as "the dark side". Surely Turkish Cypriots would be in the dark were it not for the "light" coming from the south. Regards, Lewis Gerolemou
I really had only one reply to that. Touché. Seriously though Lewis, we only refer to “visiting the dark side” in an affectionate way. Where would we be without our regular shopping jaunts to the south?
Finally on the subject of power cuts and being cold, read this, which we received from some friends of ours, Frank & Wynn, who are currently teaching in Moscow, but are wisely having an apartment built over here so that they can take up residence later this year.
Russian Diary Page 24 – Wednesday 18th January 2006 – The Big Freeze!!
We have survived! Thought you might like to experience through words what living and working in minus 35C is really like!!
Yes, that’s right – I didn’t miss-type – this week we walked to school in minus 35C temperatures! Maximum temperatures at mid-day have been in the region of minus 26C. Clothing – well generally everything that is in your cupboard must go on!!! Long john’s, wool socks, fur boots, wool trousers, thermal vest/shirt/pullover/sheepskin jacket/overcoat/2 scarves [one to cover the chest and one to cover the face] fur gloves, hot gel in the pockets of your coat and of course the Russian fur-lined helmet. On leaving the building the first breath you take is somewhat of a shock – makes you want to sneeze and gulp for air. Your eyes water and the water freezes before it reaches your cheeks, your nose hairs freeze instantly. Your face becomes numb after about 5 minutes and lips don’t work too well – so chat is out of the question. It is a good idea to keep making funny faces to keep the muscles working and avoid freezing skin. Breath comes out in a constant cloud which of course freezes instantly and settles on the outside of scarves hats and collars as white frost.
Frostbite is common! The rule is don’t walk for more than 15 minutes before seeking shelter! Wynn’s school is about that far and by the time she arrived her forehead was rock hard – there was no loose movement of the skin at all – the first step to frostbite is apparently the hardening of the skin, then cracking and infection!! It is certainly a weird sensation to put your hand to your face and feel that hardness. One Welsh guy at Frank’s school got frostbite on the bridge of his nose after a half hour walk.
The homeless are of course freezing to death – where they can people are setting up soup kitchens [which are in caravans outside on street corners] – there is no time to find somewhere to sit – if not eaten immediately it goes cold. Some villages whose power plant supplying hot water for heating has broken down – have had to be evacuated en masse to hostels where they still have heating.
Some tramcar rails have become so brittle that they have snapped.
Last night heavy powdery snow started to fall and when we looked out at the main road it was gathering quickly – the anti-freeze they pour over the roads and the car tires were having no effect on the melting of the snow because of the extreme cold.
Some of the schools closed on Friday because the heating systems were just not managing to heat the rooms to an acceptable level. It’s also not coping in the building where we have our flat. Our inside temperature has gone down to 8C – and that’s with the hot water heating system on!! The good news is the week-end should be warmer – the bad news is they say it will start all over again next week! So watch this space! We are so looking forward to Cyprus!!!
Only one thing to say about that, Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Finally, yesterday evening a crowd of us went to The Paradiso restaurant. This is situated next to the new Serkas supermarket and they do a Thursday night special, Curry Buffet night at a fixed price of 20 YTL per person. Joan thought that an attack of the hot curry might fix the bad throat. Don’t know whether it actually cured the problem but it was a blooming good meal and definitely worth revisiting. There was an assortment of curry dishes available all clearly marked from very mild through to very hot. Pickles, rice and all the trimmings.
Controversy. For some time now I have been openly critical of the Orams who have a home here in Lapta and who we all know are involved in a legal dispute with the South, I have said at various times, “bless them for going south” and even called them “those silly Orams” and in my mind and in the opinion of very many others here not without justification. Anyway they decided to respond by e-mail, reprinted here:-
LAY OFF THE ORAMS! Twice on your website recently you have referred to us in a patronising and condescending tone. First it was: "Bless them for going to the South", now you call us "the silly Orams's". Why do you consider us "silly" to be protecting our half million pound house in England? Wouldn't you do the same? As it appears you have no property or assets in the UK, you are hardly in a position to make these comments. You know NOTHING about our case and your crass and personal remarks simply prove your ignorance. We have done nothing to you to deserve it. We have no need to defend our actions to you or anybody else. However, we will just say that we have been told by top lawyers in both Cyprus and England that we followed the correct course. When legal papers were served on us in the UK on New Year's Eve 2005 we, together with our defence team, were well prepared. If Linda hadn't gone to the South over a year before we would have been caught completely offguard. The result of our case will have far reaching effects. A fact that seems to have escaped your attention. If you cannot say anything positive and supportive on behalf of fellow Brits - say nothing at all and restrict your usual ramblings to chocolate cake and cheap meals. You are always claiming you are fair and will print adverse comments. Prove it by printing this. David and Linda Orams
First a bit of info. for you both. We still do have property and assets in UK but we are not brash enough to declare the value and then ask for it to be published. But more important is the justifiable reasons for saying what I did. We have discussed this situation with many friends and with people in business over here and there is clearly one thing that springs out above everything else:-
The Orams’s were directly advised by the President’s office here not to attend the court in the South.
Justification is obvious. The South do not recognize the North except as an occupied territory, therefore the server had no legal right here and it was 100% guaranteed that the case would be lost even before the border was crossed. It is consistently maintained by very, very many here, that had they not attended the court then the case would not have been able to escalate to the current position and would not have fed the hungry publicity machine for the South and would not have had such a devastating effect on the economy of the North. There have in fact been other arrest warrants issued. The recipients were also advised not to attend court, they didn’t and there has been no further publicity. It is a definite fact, that I cannot deny, that this case now has far reaching effects for the North. If the case is eventually won then a very positive situation exists as far as land and property issues here are concerned, let's hope to goodness they do win, because consider the outcome if the case is lost and then consider the initial advice given.
In addition to the above, there is one other reason for my comments. We have heard, some considerable time ago, from a very reliable source, that one of the organizations here, set up to counter the South’s propaganda machine spent around £7,000 to £8,000 on legal advice for the Orams with a team of experienced barristers, which they then chose to ignore. I find that very hard to swallow, especially when I consider that that money came in as small donations from property owners here, encouraged to fund and hopefully improve the North’s publicity campaign.
Enough said, you now know how I feel about this situation and why I have made previous comments, but I shall no longer mention the Orams, unless of course there is an article in the press that I feel needs highlighting. I particularly like articles by that well known correspondent, Tom Roche, who included them in his New Year’s honors list, for NOT seeking publicity in 2005.
This weeks news seems to be around 5 pages all about the electricity problem, but as I have already mentioned our problems here there is little point in repeating.
Other major item seems to be the Bird Flu scare. There are no cases here yet but the Greek Cypriots seem to be very sure that any attack on them is going to drive across the border and not fly. When you try to cross now you are met on the Southern side by customs officers in white latex gloves who want to inspect every nook and cranny of your vehicle. The consequence of this of course is huge delays at the border which is beginning to anger some. Apparantly you are allowed cooked chicken sandwiches.......
Reported in the paper, is an article about Turkish Cypriot properties in the south being sold off using fake documents. It would seem that a case is now in progress in a Paphos court about sales which took place in 2001, before the border was opened. All these cases have implications for all land and properties both North and South so the outcome will make interesting reading.
It seems that Jack Straw's visit is definitely on next Wednesday, when he will meet with President Talat in the presidential office. As a result the Greek Cypriot leader is refusing to see him or meet him at the airport. Maybe this is a form of recognition from the UK government, only time will tell, but I will be buying a daily newspaper on Thursday to see what I can glean about the visit.
Back to the border crossing thing. Joan and I, together with George and Susan, decided to go over to the South today to see if there might be snow on the Troodos mountains so to start with we had to run the gauntlet of the customs in the white rubber gloves. A fairly extensive search of the vehicle and at one stage I thought I was going to have to remove the metal wheel cover off the spare, but I managed to convince the lady that if she looked at the size of my alloy wheels and the size of the cover, she would note that there was not much space for chickens in there. Because it was weekend it was quite busy up in the Troodos mountains, but not much snow. We did enjoy a nice walk around the area and were able to inspect the Troodos village traders and all there wares. There was one stall there that had a huge range of nuts which they insisted we keep trying. We finally succumbed to a bag of cashews that were really delicious. We bought some pitta bread kebabs and walked around stuffing our faces at lunchtime, but later when we went in to a restaurant for a drink we rather regretted not having waited to sample their one price buffet lunch, it looked absolutely delicious. This village is clearly a weekend holiday place from the locals from all over the island and even sported the standard kiddie catcher horses to ride. All in all a good day out and we all said lets go back sometime and do lunch at that restaurant. In the meantime the lovely Susan had made a beef stew and dumplings yesterday evening, which just required warming up and enjoying. Yummy.
A new addition to the website now is a daily weather report. This will be put on the "lead in page" every day. In fact we don't really need this at the moment the weather is rain, rain and more rain with lots more promised over the next few days. I know we said we needed it but ugh, it's horrible and makes it feel very cold.
A sort of lets dodge around the rain week. All that stuff we did not get in December seems to be coming back now, it makes driving around the building sites great fun. I have today cancelled two installations for Monday as there is just no way that you could have got a truck on the sites. I had a struggle with my little 4 x 4 and it now looks as if I have spent the whole week off-roading.
Joan has been trying to add other things to her furnishing pages and today we hope to add some of the missing prices to things and some new stuff soon.
We had a brief spell of sunny weather today for the first time and I could not resist taking this picture of the burnt offering. It will be really interesting to see if this worked, as the pundits say all will be well.
This evening we had two friends from Nicosia over for dinner, Attay Rashid and his wife. We had a really enjoyable evening and because they are seafood lovers we had managed to get some nice big Gambas as a starter and Joan followed this up with a fish medley as a main course. Some nicely chilled Chenin Blanc washed it down well.
The Saturday Papers.
Well the Jack Straw visit took place here in TRNC, but it is very low key reporting, although he did hold a news conference in the buffer zone after meeting President Talat. There, he said that he was making Cyprus one of his highest priorities for 2006 and he urged that property disputes between North and South be solved through negotiation, saying it was the only way. Among other items he urged all parties to take on board the latest proposals by Turkey for a resumption of talks, but earlier he had faced a hostile reception in the South with eggs being thrown at his car and being snubbed by the President of the Greek South. Mr. Talat thanked Jack Straw for his visit and said that the implications of the visit were far reaching and far more important than had been expected.
A lot more has been made of Jack Straw’s subsequent visit to Turkey, meetings with ministers there and then follow on meetings with Kofi Annan and the EU commissioner Olli Rehn. In all of them he referred to the need to resolve the issue and the need to integrate the whole of the island into the EU. Guess there might be lots in the UK newspapers also and we will just have to wait and see what comes out ultimately. With politicians you never know of course, but think we must read something into this trip he made, knowing the very strong opposition he was going to get from the South.
A very interesting article appeared in last weeks Telegraph Property section and can be viewed on www.telegraph.co.uk/property/main.jhtml?xml=/property/2006/01/25/pcyprus25.xml It is specifically focusing on the Orams case but is considerably more balanced than many previous articles.
The “Opinion” column in Cyprus Today is reiterating all the facts that point to 2006 being a critical year for Cyprus. It referred to Turkey action plan which has won international approval and Jack Straws visit as a major development, with messages being carried particularly to the Greek Cypriot administration. It showed that the situation in Cyprus has dramatically changed and that the Southern administration must adapt to this new situation. It suggests to the Papadopoulos regime that they cannot simply maintain the status quo by saying no to everything. One interesting thing will be the Greek Cypriot elections in May which will indicate the support level that the current political leaders have.
Electric supply. We are still buying from the South as temporary repairs carried out to the turbines caused some pipes to burst and will now take a further month to repair. Meantime the contract awarded for the building of four separate 17.5 MW power plants still appears to be stumbling along and delaying the build, so it looks like we may be suffering for some time to come. Apparently it is costing £78,000 daily to buy from the South, ouch!
Couple of quick notes towards the end of the month.
I have been asked to mention on the site that everybody should be aware that normal UK pensions still get the annual increases over here. This counteracts the southern propaganda that says this does not happen, just another little lie.
A funny to end the month. Joan and I used to live in New Romney, Kent. A small town with the normal small town high street and local Nat.West high street bank. I received this picture this morning which clearly shows that somebody forgot their pin number and decided to help themselves to the whole lot during the night. I can visualise the traffic chaos during Saturday morning and everybody standing around in the pub in the evening, enjoying a new talking point.
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